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Managing flying with a Tandem....

Roland McCabe2015-06-09 09:28:45

We will soon take delivery of a Thorn Tandem with S + S couplings. We intend to fly with our tandem to Bordeaux for a holiday. Thorn have advised me not to use bike bags for the flight but cardboard boxes such as for a flat screen TV. This will be relatively straight forward in flying out there but not wishing to carry a massive box around with us on the tandem will require us to find another box for the flight back. This fills me with anxiety in that I might fail to acquire said packaging on the day of the return flight! Does anybody have any experiences or advice they can share with us regarding managing any kind of packaging and flying with a Tandem?

Keith Burns2015-06-09 10:07:41

We have used two solutions very frequently. If you're returning from a different airport, find a local bike shop before you leave (on internet), phone them and arrange to collect an empty box or boxes on the day before you fly back. They are always happy to oblige because it saves them disposal hassle. You should also find out where the post office is to buy parcel tape etc. It's also useful to forward book a hotel near the airport for your last night and arrange to arrive the day before so that you can collect boxes and other bits and pieces. The hotel makes a good base to dismantle and box things up.

If you're returning from the same airport, stay your first night at a nearby hotel and arrange to leave your boxes with them, having booked your last night at the same hotel. The hotel will usually have a shuttle bus that will take your boxes to the airport.

Roland McCabe2015-06-09 11:11:52

: We have used two solutions very frequently. If you're returning from a
: different airport, find a local bike shop before you leave (on internet),
: phone them and arrange to collect an empty box or boxes on the day before
: you fly back. They are always happy to oblige because it saves them
: disposal hassle. You should also find out where the post office is to buy
: parcel tape etc. It's also useful to forward book a hotel near the airport
: for your last night and arrange to arrive the day before so that you can
: collect boxes and other bits and pieces. The hotel makes a good base to
: dismantle and box things up.

: If you're returning from the same airport, stay your first night at a nearby
: hotel and arrange to leave your boxes with them, having booked your last
: night at the same hotel. The hotel will usually have a shuttle bus that
: will take your boxes to the airport.

Cunning plans indeed, thank you very much.

Duncan S2015-06-10 10:18:39

Our tandem is fitted with S&S couplings and with a bit of patience it will fit into one box but does take time. To achieve this we need a larger bike box. Boxes vary with different lengths, widths, height and quality. We normally have to wait a few days to get a box which is big enough
If you need two boxes then smaller boxes are probably better with one that fits inside the other if you are leaving them at a hotel.

I have used the strategies suggested except that more notice to the bike shop may be worthwhile, particularly if the shop is small with only a small throughput of new bikes. It is not good if you phone up the day after all the bike boxes have been recycled!
Not a bad idea to do a trial pack before you pack up to go to be familiar with potenial problems that may arise.
Pipe insulation and bubble wrap as well as spare cardboard (from another bike box) and a sharp blade to cut to size make it easier on the day.

Leave the box as it comes. Do not cover up "This Way Up" signs. Bikes in boxes seem to get more care than other luggage.

Duncan

Roland McCabe2015-06-28 08:52:22

: Our tandem is fitted with S&S couplings and with a bit of patience it will
: fit into one box but does take time. To achieve this we need a larger bike
: box. Boxes vary with different lengths, widths, height and quality. We
: normally have to wait a few days to get a box which is big enough
: If you need two boxes then smaller boxes are probably better with one that
: fits inside the other if you are leaving them at a hotel.

: I have used the strategies suggested except that more notice to the bike shop
: may be worthwhile, particularly if the shop is small with only a small
: throughput of new bikes. It is not good if you phone up the day after all
: the bike boxes have been recycled!
: Not a bad idea to do a trial pack before you pack up to go to be familiar
: with potenial problems that may arise.
: Pipe insulation and bubble wrap as well as spare cardboard (from another bike
: box) and a sharp blade to cut to size make it easier on the day.

: Leave the box as it comes. Do not cover up "This Way Up" signs.
: Bikes in boxes seem to get more care than other luggage.

: Duncan

Many thanks

Pat Watson2015-06-27 18:55:49

: We will soon take delivery of a Thorn Tandem with S + S couplings. We intend
: to fly with our tandem to Bordeaux for a holiday. Thorn have advised me
: not to use bike bags for the flight but cardboard boxes such as for a flat
: screen TV. This will be relatively straight forward in flying out there
: but not wishing to carry a massive box around with us on the tandem will
: require us to find another box for the flight back. This fills me with
: anxiety in that I might fail to acquire said packaging on the day of the
: return flight! Does anybody have any experiences or advice they can share
: with us regarding managing any kind of packaging and flying with a Tandem?

We flew to Bergerac from Leeds then got a train to Bordeaux to start our coast to coast to Montpelier. We also have flown a further several times with our tandem with no problem. It is a Orbit tandem and does not have couplings therefore more involved than a tandem with couplings so in theory you should have no problem on a plane. We have to dismantle the tandem to a fair degree as it has to be more compact for baggage handlers. It is pipe lagged, bubbled wrapped then taped and we expose front saddle which is arrowed with red tape for the baggage handlers. It is a good safe balancing point lifted in that manner the bike is safe to carry. Whole process which I have not detailed takes about one and half hours. We left wrappings at the hotel for them to dispose off as we obviously could not take this with uson a journey of apprx427 miles. Two weeks later we went nearest B&Q equivalant which is Bricolage or Brico and bought the same packaging for return. 2x10 metre rolls of bubble wrap, pipe lagging and a role of gaffa tape.
You will find lots of Bricolage's generally open seven days of the week as in France Sundays and Mondays can be problem as shops including bike shops close usually on these days?
We have never had a problem with the bike still perfectly in tact in fact they seem to handle the package more carefully when they know it is a bike as we have seen them throw bike boxes on with the luggage.
we have repeated this several times when flying to France and Majorca and will be doing the same in September if we go to Germany
to cycle the Danube.
As one of the replies suggested if you are staying at the same place leave packaging in the luggage room. We have just done the Riveria we to Nice left packaging at airport hotel then got train to Toulon and cycled back along Riveria and back to Nice and stayed at same hotel and our packaging all ready for us!

Roland McCabe2015-06-28 08:51:38

: We flew to Bergerac from Leeds then got a train to Bordeaux to start our
: coast to coast to Montpelier. We also have flown a further several times
: with our tandem with no problem. It is a Orbit tandem and does not have
: couplings therefore more involved than a tandem with couplings so in
: theory you should have no problem on a plane. We have to dismantle the
: tandem to a fair degree as it has to be more compact for baggage handlers.
: It is pipe lagged, bubbled wrapped then taped and we expose front saddle
: which is arrowed with red tape for the baggage handlers. It is a good safe
: balancing point lifted in that manner the bike is safe to carry. Whole
: process which I have not detailed takes about one and half hours. We left
: wrappings at the hotel for them to dispose off as we obviously could not
: take this with uson a journey of apprx427 miles. Two weeks later we went
: nearest B&Q equivalant which is Bricolage or Brico and bought the same
: packaging for return. 2x10 metre rolls of bubble wrap, pipe lagging and a
: role of gaffa tape.
: You will find lots of Bricolage's generally open seven days of the week as in
: France Sundays and Mondays can be problem as shops including bike shops
: close usually on these days?
: We have never had a problem with the bike still perfectly in tact in fact
: they seem to handle the package more carefully when they know it is a bike
: as we have seen them throw bike boxes on with the luggage.
: we have repeated this several times when flying to France and Majorca and
: will be doing the same in September if we go to Germany
: to cycle the Danube.
: As one of the replies suggested if you are staying at the same place leave
: packaging in the luggage room. We have just done the Riveria we to Nice
: left packaging at airport hotel then got train to Toulon and cycled back
: along Riveria and back to Nice and stayed at same hotel and our packaging
: all ready for us!

Many thanks

Alex Hudghton2015-06-30 10:58:46

: You will find lots of Bricolage's generally open seven days of the week as in
: France Sundays and Mondays can be problem as shops including bike shops
: close usually on these days?

Sorry to disagree, but Bricos are not usually open on Sundays. Even in large cities like Bordeaux, Leroy Merlin (one of the largest chains) is not open on Sunday.

Some supermarkets / hypermarkets open Sunday morning only, but not all.

As for Mondays - the banks are closed all day, but bike shops and normal shops usually open, if not a bit late in opening (10:30 here in the Haute Vienne).

Edd Willatts2015-07-09 05:39:38

On a related note, does anyone have any suggestions for a tandem-transportable bike bag? We borrowed a friend's Planet X bag, which we rolled-up and bungee'd to our pannier rack on a recent trip and then left this at a hostel (we flew in to and out of the same airport).

This worked fine, I just wondered what the alternative bike bags are?

Obviously a suitable bag should be bike portable!

Jeremy Pascoe2015-10-07 18:28:17

What we did was to use two solo bags overlapping and also well padded with bubblewrap and cardboard. We got a taxi with it still packaged to a hotel, unpacked it there adn asked the hotel to look after the packaging for us as we would return there for our last night. the other option would be to put the packaging in left luggage if you are not going to a hotel first and last nights - or a 3rd idea is to use disposable packaging ie buy a roll of bulle wrap on your last day and pack it in that. there is a theory that if it looks more like a bike the baggage handlers will be more careful - I know some folks who have simply turned up, removed pedals and turned the bars. Beware 32 kgs is usually the max weight for a single package on a plane