I have a Tandem for sale on the Club website. I've been approached by a gentleman based in Lorient, France, who has made me a near asking price offer. His written English was poor and although I have invited him to call me he jumped to the offer stage and suggested sending a shipping agent to me to collect the tandem after just 2 emails!
It is clearly a scam. Such a shame that individuals like this exist...
Watch out all.
This was a post from Martin that ended up on the Easter Rally thread.
It's an awful thing to happen, but I am surprised by the bank suggesting it is a sophisticated scam. I'm not in anyway victim blaming here - mostly questioning the bank as this is a very common scam - particularly the "If I pay you far too much, then you can refund me the difference/send the money on elsewhere.
"Martin Thompson2022-11-14 12:46:42
Be warned, don't accept a cheque particularly from abroad. "
I too have a Tandem for sale on the club website. My scammer is also based in Lorient! I was suspicious because he expressed his interest minutes after I posted the ad. The English wasn't quite right anyway.
As Graham says, Watch out all.
In France, one basically is allowed to pull this trick only once every 5 years, as the writer of a bounced cheque ends up on a blacklist of the Bank of France.
Just in case,
Another scammer, this time maskerading as Arthur Wilson. Watch out.
I have been contacted by James Lewsen (Based in Lorient, France) and Arthur Wilson who would like to pay buy cheque etc. Fortunately, I realised this was a scam. Please try to make this really obvious on your website that people should be aware of these types of scams, as i am sure other members will not see this as an issue.
I've had a similar incident over this weekend as I've got a tandem for sale. This time it was "Chris Turner" from Lorient. He wanted to buy the tandem without viewing it. He said he would use a shipping agent and pay by cheque. I had already told him that payment was by bank transfer only. He tried to persuade me to take a cheque but I got back to him this morning and told him there would be no sale. Thankfully they do not have my address details.
I've got to say thank you to the tandem club for the information they provide on protecting yourself when selling. It was incredibly useful.
I must add my name to the list of tandem-club members who are the targets of this "chris turner from Lorient".
Here is the email he sent offering to send his agent to pick up the tandem:
I need you to know ahead that i am writing you from Lorient,France .
Distance and the nature of my busy schedule will not permit me to come and have a look ..
I trust the tandem is in good condition.
I will be sending a shipping agent to come to your location for the pick up .. All expense paid by me ..
Let’s proceed with the payment !
I also thank you all for posting this stuff so we do not fall for this type of scam!
Stan Simister 2023-30
I also received a very brief "enquiry" from " Chris Turner" yesterday re our Tandem on club's For Sale board.We were suspicious as content didn't seem right. We replied telling him to phone us no contact from him as yet. Saw other alerts on discussion board this morning. So beware he is obviously still trying to scam members!
We had this email from someone thanking members for reporting this as they also had an attempted SCAM from someone calling themself Chris Turner, in this case for a Land Rover from some other ForSale site. So this person/group is at it for lots of sales items. As is stated on our ForSale help/notes, cheque based payments are very in-secure and are often used for SCAMs:
I'm not a member but found a recent thread on your site about a scam relating to an attempted scam over a tandem for sale. I have a land rover advertised on line. I accepted an email offer from Chris Turner (email@example.com). They insisted paying by cheque which arrived from France. This included an over-payment to cover 'shipping agent costs'. I was on the point of depositing it at my bank when I found your thread on your forum just by searching the name 'Chris Turner Lorient'. The story was EXACTLY the same as the email published by your member Anthony Wilmot. Word perfect (only changing the word tandem for land rover). Just wanted to say thank you to Anthony and your members for saving me a lot of problems. Regards
He's approached me too.
I have also been approached by "Chris Turner' of Lorient using the same technique! You'd think he'd at least vary the name!
Having sold a couple of motorcycles and come across the same type of scam you do tend to notice that the scammers are often the first to approach you soon after the ad goes up. After a very cursory attempt at bargaining they suspiciously tend to accept price and then comes the 'Ill send my agent to collect " bit.
Arthur Wilson is definitely about he will put a cheque in the post , you don't have to do anything
Be on the lookout